Giuseppe Conte, leader of the M5s, did not take kindly to the interview with former Minister of Economy, Giovanni Tria, who called the Superbonus “subversive and criminal” in La Stampa. As a guest on Accordi&Disaccordi on Nove, the former prime minister had harsh words for the economist who was part of his first government: “He lacked motivation and enthusiasm when it came to planning growth measures. He was never a lionheart.” Conte then responded to repeated accusations from the Meloni government about the damage that the Superbonus had done to public accounts, suggesting that if there were any budget holes, many people, including ministers from the previous Draghi government, would also need to be arrested. “So, it’s nonsense: a prime minister, before speaking in such terms, can certainly look for a scapegoat, but should not talk nonsense, because then the financial markets will kill you.”
Regarding the war in Ukraine, Conte reiterated his pacifist position and his opposition to sending military aid to Kiev: “Is it realistic to be at Palazzo Chigi now and say we no longer send weapons? Absolutely yes. Yes, it would be realistic. It would have been realistic from the very beginning to tell all allies, ‘Gentlemen, Italy, due to its tradition and ability to dialogue, will help the entire coalition. We will be the frontman, the front country for the negotiation turnaround. I would have taken the lead in those negotiations with our ability, our tradition of dialogue, which we also have with Russia.’” So, if Conte were prime minister today, would he not send weapons? The leader of the M5s insists, “Absolutely not.”
While today Palazzo Chigi often finds itself in conflict with Paris and Berlin on the issue of migration flows and reception, Conte recalls that in his governments, it would never have happened that “France and Germany did not collaborate on redistribution. Because while Salvini was talking on TV and showing off on the migrant issue, I was working.” From the very beginning of his work in government, Conte recalls, “I have shown a certain consistency and credibility in pursuing a migration policy that was not based on Salvini’s slogans. In Europe, we must be consistent: you cannot say that the Poles and Hungarians are right when they oppose redistribution. Yesterday, there was a meeting on the management of migration flows among the interior ministers regarding a regulation that provided for automatic redistribution of migrants. Our minister, Piantedosi, was left baffled because the Hungarians and Poles had rejected it. It reminds me so much of Salvini, who during my government, rarely attended the internal affairs committees. Results came from the work that was done, not from making statements in front of cameras.”
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